Whether HBar, Whether Comp? A Hitrater Investigation (BF4)


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Original: Whether HBar, Whether Comp? A Hitrater Investigation, posted March 11th 2015
Author: Veritable


This is an attempt to answer a question that I often seen asked: Which gun would benefit from the Compensator? Which gun is worth the ~23% V-Recoil penalty that the Heavy Barrel hits you with?

Part 1: Assault Rifles and Carbines

Setup:

  1. Hitrater

  2. H-Recoil values + ADS - Not Moving spread values + SIPS values for the gun in question

  3. modified by Naked / Heavy Barrel / Compensator barrel attachments

  4. Range 55m aiming at center mass

  5. length of burst is set to the BTK values at that range (which is minimum damage for both classes) for the weapon (5 for SCAR-H and Bulldog, 6 for 5.56mm ARs and ACE 52, 7 for 5.56mm Carbines)

  6. 1 million runs

  7. multiply the expected hits with the damage value to get an average damage per burst value

  8. rank the damage values for each gun by attachment

  9. rank the values for each gun in the class

  10. rank the values for each gun across both classes.

Part 1a: Assault Rifles
ACE 23 Comp (77.3208 ) ---(+1.80%)--> Naked (78.7122) ---(+8.22%)--> HBar (85.1814)
AEK-971 Naked (69.4962) ---(+0.59%)--> Comp (69.9084) ---(+6.90%)--> Hbar (74.7342)
AK-12 Comp (84.5316) ---(+4.50%)--> Naked (88.335) ---(+8.41%)--> HBar (95.7672)
AR-160 Naked (77.2344) ---(+0.77%)--> Comp (77.8284) ---(+6.19%)--> HBar (82.647)
AUGA3 Comp (75.7728 ) ---(+0.01%)--> Naked (76.4514) ---(+9.89%)--> HBar (84.0114)
BULLDOG Naked (68.9568 ) ---(+4.73%)--> Comp (72.2208 ) ---(+1.55%)--> HBar (73.3416)
CZ-805 Comp (81.4626) ---(+3.22%)--> Naked (84.087) ---(+8.32%)--> Hbar (91.0818 )
F2000 Naked (64.0296) ---(+2.90%)--> Comp (65.8872) ---(+4.89%)--> HBar (69.111)
FAMAS Naked (51.246) ---(+5.18%)--> HBar (53.8992) ---(+2.24%)--> Comp (55.1088 )
L85A2 Comp (73.4022) ---(+0.82%)--> Naked (74.0052) ---(+10.92%)--> HBar (81.4158 )
QBZ-95-1 Comp (80.289) ---(+4.17%)--> Naked (83.6406) ---(+11.13%)--> HBar (92.9502)
SAR-21 Comp (81.4374) ---(+2.45%)--> Naked (83.4354) ---(+10.00%)--> HBar (91.7784)
SCAR-H Comp (88.0752) ---(+2.48%)--> Naked (90.2592) ---(+8.23%)--> HBar (97.6896)

Pure Damage Output Ranking
  1. SCAR-H HB

  2. AK-12 HB

  3. QBZ-95-1 HB

  4. SAR-21 HB

  5. CZ-805 HB

  6. SCAR-H

  7. AK-12

  8. SCAR-H Comp

  9. M416 HB

  10. ACE 23 HB

  11. AK-12 Comp

  12. CZ-805

  13. AUG A3 HB

  14. QBZ-95-1

  15. SAR-21

  16. AR160 HB

  17. CZ-805 Comp

  18. SAR-21 Comp

  19. L85A2 HB

  20. QBZ-95-1 Comp

  21. M416

  22. ACE 23

----- average -----

  1. AR160 Comp

  2. M416 Comp

  3. ACE 23 Comp

  4. AR160

  5. AUG A3

  6. AUG A3 Comp

  7. AEK-971 HB

  8. L85A2

  9. L85A2 Comp

  10. Bulldog HB

  11. Bulldog Comp

  12. AEK-971 Comp

  13. AEK-971

  14. F2000 HB

  15. Bulldog

  16. F2000 Comp

  17. F2000

  18. FAMAS Comp

  19. FAMAS HB

  20. FAMAS

Damage Per Degree V-Recoil Ranking
  1. SAR-21

  2. SAR-21 Comp

  3. SAR-21 HB

  4. AR160 Comp

  5. AR160

  6. QBZ-95-1

  7. QBZ-95-1 Comp

  8. AR160 HB

  9. AUG A3

  10. AUG A3 Comp

  11. AK-12

  12. AK-12 Comp

  13. QBZ-95-1 HB

  14. AUG A3 HB

  15. CZ-805 Comp

  16. AK-12 HB

----- average -----

  1. SCAR-H

  2. SCAR-H Comp

  3. CZ-805

  4. L85A2

  5. L85A2 Comp

  6. ACE 23 Comp

  7. M416 Comp

  8. ACE 23

  9. M416

  10. F2000 Comp

  11. SCAR-H HB

  12. L85A2 HB

  13. F2000

  14. Bulldog Comp

  15. CZ-805 HB

  16. ACE 23 HB

  17. Bulldog

  18. M416 HB

  19. F2000 HB

  20. AEK-971 Comp

  21. Bulldog HB

  22. AEK-971

  23. FAMAS Comp

  24. FAMAS

  25. AEK-971 HB

  26. FAMAS HB

Combined Ranking - Ease of Use + Accuracy
  1. SAR-21

  2. SAR-21 HB

  3. SAR-21 Comp

  4. QBZ-95-1 HB

  5. QBZ-95-1

  6. AK-12 HB

  7. AK-12

  8. AR160 Comp

  9. AR160

  10. QBZ-95-1 Comp

  11. CZ-805 HB

  12. CZ-805

  13. AR160 HB

  14. SCAR-H HB

  15. AK-12 Comp

  16. SCAR-H

  17. CZ-805 Comp

  18. SCAR-H Comp

  19. AUG A3 HB

  20. AUG A3

  21. AUG A3 Comp

  22. M416 HB

  23. M416

----- average -----

  1. M416 Comp

  2. ACE 23 HB

  3. ACE 23

  4. ACE 23 Comp

  5. L85A2 HB

  6. L85A2

  7. L85A2 Comp

  8. Bulldog Comp

  9. AEK-971 HB

  10. F2000 Comp

  11. Bulldog HB

  12. Bulldog

  13. AEK-971 Comp

  14. AEK-971

  15. F2000 HB

  16. F2000

  17. FAMAS Comp

  18. FAMAS

  19. FAMAS HB


Assault Rifles more accurate with Comp than with HBar
  • FAMAS
Assault Rifles more accurate Naked than with Comp
  • ACE 23

  • AK-12

  • AUG A3

  • CZ-805

  • L85A2

  • M416

  • QBZ-95-1

  • SAR-21

  • SCAR-H

Assault Rifles that make almost no difference with Naked or Comp

Less than 1% improvement separate these attachments for these ARs, so they are prime candidates to run Suppressor if not needing the HBar.

  • AEK-971

  • AR160

  • AUG A3

  • L85A2

Most beneficial HBar
  1. QBZ-95-1

  2. L85A2

  3. SAR-21

Assault Rifles that make more sense with Comp

These ARs are statistically more accurate with the HBar but the V-Recoil penalties are so high or the improvements are so little that it’s not worth it.

  • AR160

  • Bulldog

  • F2000

Part 1b: Carbines
A-91

Naked (53.85534) β€”(+2.89%)–> Comp (55.4092) β€”(+10.52%)–> HBar (61.23964)

ACE 21 CQB

Comp (65.65482) β€”(+3.35%)–> Naked (67.85394) β€”(+14.59%)–> HBar (77.75614)

ACE 52 CQB

Comp (65.3524) β€”(+0.27%)–> Naked (65.531) β€”(+11.73%)–> HBar (73.2184)

ACW-R

Naked (55.22748 ) β€”(+2.56%)–> Comp (56.64428 ) β€”(+7.76%)–> HBar (61.04252)

AK5c

Comp (67.75692) β€”(+2.59%)–> Naked (69.5156) β€”(+14.08%)–> HBar (79.30076)

AKU-12

Comp (71.20806) β€”(+6.19%)–> Naked (75.61862) β€”(+16.36%)–> HBar (87.99252)

G36C

Comp (71.20806) β€”(+6.19%)–> Naked (75.61862) β€”(+16.36%)–> HBar (87.99252)

MTAR-21

Naked (48.6486) β€”(+4.35%)–> Comp (50.7661) β€”(+7.68%)–> HBar (54.66538 )

SG553

Naked (57.93018 ) β€”(+1.69%)–> Comp (58.91116) β€”(+9.25%)–> HBar (64.36122)

Type-95B-1

Comp (67.4751) β€”(+5.37%)–> Naked (71.09718 ) β€”(+20.39%)–> HBar (85.59628 )


Pure Damage Output Ranking
  1. G36C HB

  2. AKU-12 HB

  3. Type-95B-1 HB

  4. Ak5C HB

  5. ACE 21 HB

  6. G36C

  7. AKU-12

  8. ACE 52 HB

  9. G36C Comp

  10. AKU-12 Comp

  11. Type-95B-1

  12. Ak5C

  13. ACE 21

  14. Ak5C Comp

  15. Type-95B-1 Comp

----- average -----

  1. ACE 21 Comp

  2. ACE 52

  3. ACE 52 Comp

  4. SG553 HB

  5. A-91 HB

  6. ACW-R HB

  7. SG553 Comp

  8. SG553

  9. ACW-R Comp

  10. A-91 Comp

  11. ACW-R

  12. MTAR-21 HB

  13. A-91

  14. MTAR-21 Comp

  15. MTAR-21

Damage Per Degree V-Recoil Ranking
  1. Type-95B-1

  2. Type-95B-1 Comp

  3. Type-95B-1 HB

  4. AKU-12

  5. G36C

  6. AKU-12 Comp

  7. AKU-12 HB

  8. G36C Comp

  9. Ak5C

  10. Ak5C Comp

  11. G36C HB

  12. Ak5C HB

  13. SG553 Comp

  14. SG553

----- average -----

  1. ACE 21

  2. A-91 Comp

  3. ACE 21 Comp

  4. A-91

  5. ACE 21 HB

  6. SG553 HB

  7. ACE 52

  8. ACE 52 Comp

  9. A-91 HB

  10. ACW-R Comp

  11. ACW-R

  12. ACE 52 HB

  13. MTAR-21 Comp

  14. MTAR-21

  15. ACW-R HB

  16. MTAR-21 HB

Combined Ranking - Ease of Use + Accuracy
  1. Type-95B-1 HB

  2. G36C HB

  3. AKU-12 HB

  4. G36C

  5. Type-95B-1

  6. AKU-12

  7. Ak5C HB

  8. Type-95B-1 Comp

  9. AKU-12 Comp

  10. G36C Comp

  11. ACE 21 HB

  12. Ak5C

  13. Ak5C Comp

----- average -----

  1. ACE 21

  2. ACE 52 HB

  3. ACE 21 Comp

  4. ACE 52

  5. ACE 52 Comp

  6. SG553 HB

  7. SG553 Comp

  8. SG553

  9. A-91 HB

  10. A-91 Comp

  11. ACW-R HB

  12. A-91

  13. ACW-R Comp

  14. ACW-R

  15. MTAR-21 HB

  16. MTAR-21 Comp

  17. MTAR-21


No Carbine is statistically more accurate with Comp than HBar.

Carbines more accurate Naked than with Comp
  • ACE 21

  • ACE 52

  • Ak5C

  • AKU-12

  • G36C

  • Type-95B-1

Only the ACE 52 has less than 1% difference separating Naked and Comp.

Most beneficial HBar
  1. Type-95B-1

  2. G36C

  3. AKU-12

Carbines that make more sense with Comp

No specific Carbine has the HBar increase in accuracy clearly outweighed by the increase in V-Recoil, but these came close.

  • ACW-R

  • MTAR-21

  • SG553

Part 1c: The Big List - Assault Rifles and Carbines Combined Rankings

Pure Damage Output Ranking
  1. SCAR-H HB

  2. AK-12 HB

  3. QBZ-95-1 HB

  4. SAR-21 HB

  5. CZ-805 HB

  6. G36C HB

  7. SCAR-H

  8. AK-12

  9. SCAR-H Comp

  10. AKU-12 HB

  11. Type-95B-1 HB

  12. M416 HB

  13. ACE 23 HB

  14. AK-12 Comp

  15. CZ-805

  16. AUG A3 HB

  17. QBZ-95-1

  18. SAR-21

  19. AR160 HB

  20. CZ-805 Comp

  21. SAR-21 Comp

  22. L85A2 HB

  23. QBZ-95-1 Comp

  24. Ak5C HB

  25. M416

  26. ACE 23

  27. AR160 Comp

  28. M416 Comp

  29. ACE 21 HB

  30. G36C

  31. ACE 23 Comp

  32. AR160

  33. AUG A3

  34. AUG A3 Comp

  35. AKU-12

  36. AEK-971 HB

  37. L85A2

----- average -----

  1. L85A2 Comp

  2. Bulldog HB

  3. ACE 52 HB

  4. G36C Comp

  5. Bulldog Comp

  6. AKU-12 Comp

  7. Type-95B-1

  8. AEK-971 Comp

  9. Ak5C

  10. AEK-971

  11. F2000 HB

  12. Bulldog

  13. ACE 21

  14. Ak5C Comp

  15. Type-95B-1 Comp

  16. F2000 Comp

  17. ACE 21 Comp

  18. ACE 52

  19. ACE 52 Comp

  20. SG553 HB

  21. F2000

  22. A-91 HB

  23. ACW-R HB

  24. SG553 Comp

  25. SG553

  26. ACW-R Comp

  27. A-91 Comp

  28. ACW-R

  29. FAMAS Comp

  30. MTAR-21 HB

  31. FAMAS HB

  32. A-91

  33. FAMAS

  34. MTAR-21 Comp

  35. MTAR-21

Damage Per Degree V-Recoil Ranking
  1. SAR-21

  2. SAR-21 Comp

  3. SAR-21 HB

  4. AR160 Comp

  5. AR160

  6. QBZ-95-1

  7. QBZ-95-1 Comp

  8. QBZ-95-1 HB

  9. AR160 HB

  10. AK-12

  11. AUG A3

  12. AUG A3 Comp

  13. CZ-805

  14. AK-12 Comp

  15. CZ-805 Comp

  16. Type-95B-1

  17. Type-95B-1 Comp

  18. AUG A3 HB

  19. AK-12 HB

  20. M416

  21. Type-95B-1 HB

  22. CZ-805 HB

  23. M416 Comp

  24. AKU-12

  25. SCAR-H

  26. SCAR-H Comp

  27. ACE 23

  28. L85A2

  29. ACE 23 Comp

  30. G36C

  31. L85A2 Comp

  32. AKU-12 Comp

----- average -----

  1. AKU-12 HB

  2. G36C Comp

  3. M416 HB

  4. Ak5C

  5. Ak5C Comp

  6. G36C HB

  7. F2000 Comp

  8. SCAR-H HB

  9. F2000

  10. L85A2 HB

  11. ACE 23 HB

  12. Bulldog Comp

  13. Ak5C HB

  14. Bulldog

  15. SG553 Comp

  16. SG553

  17. AEK-971 Comp

  18. ACE 21

  19. AEK-971

  20. A-91 Comp

  21. ACE 21 Comp

  22. F2000 HB

  23. A-91

  24. ACE 21 HB

  25. SG553 HB

  26. ACE 52

  27. ACE 52 Comp

  28. Bulldog HB

  29. A-91 HB

  30. AEK-971 HB

  31. FAMAS Comp

  32. ACW-R Comp

  33. ACW-R

  34. ACE 52 HB

  35. FAMAS

  36. MTAR-21 Comp

  37. MTAR-21

  38. ACW-R HB

  39. MTAR-21 HB

  40. FAMAS HB

Combined Ranking - Ease of Use + Accuracy
  1. SAR-21

  2. SAR-21 HB

  3. SAR-21 Comp

  4. QBZ-95-1 HB

  5. QBZ-95-1

  6. AK-12 HB

  7. AK-12

  8. AR160 Comp

  9. AR160

  10. QBZ-95-1 Comp

  11. CZ-805 HB

  12. CZ-805

  13. AR160 HB

  14. SCAR-H HB

  15. AK-12 Comp

  16. SCAR-H

  17. CZ-805 Comp

  18. Type-95B-1 HB

  19. SCAR-H Comp

  20. AUG A3 HB

  21. G36C HB

  22. AUG A3

  23. AKU-12 HB

  24. AUG A3 Comp

  25. M416 HB

  26. M416

  27. M416 Comp

  28. ACE 23 HB

  29. ACE 23

  30. G36C

  31. Type-95B-1

  32. ACE 23 Comp

  33. AKU-12

  34. L85A2 HB

  35. L85A2

  36. Ak5C HB

  37. L85A2 Comp

----- average -----

  1. Type-95B-1 Comp

  2. AKU-12 Comp

  3. G36C Comp

  4. ACE 21 HB

  5. Ak5C

  6. Bulldog Comp

  7. Ak5C Comp

  8. AEK-971 HB

  9. F2000 Comp

  10. Bulldog HB

  11. Bulldog

  12. AEK-971 Comp

  13. AEK-971

  14. F2000 HB

  15. ACE 21

  16. F2000

  17. ACE 52 HB

  18. ACE 21 Comp

  19. ACE 52

  20. ACE 52 Comp

  21. SG553 HB

  22. SG553 Comp

  23. SG553

  24. A-91 HB

  25. A-91 Comp

  26. ACW-R HB

  27. A-91

  28. ACW-R Comp

  29. FAMAS Comp

  30. ACW-R

  31. MTAR-21 HB

  32. FAMAS

  33. MTAR-21 Comp

  34. FAMAS HB

  35. MTAR-21